Why I love West Lake (aka par topic)

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Postby RedBird88 » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:10 pm

Just a quick note: the average score of the Advanced group at the RCR was 93.98. Makes for a solid argument that par could be listed anywhere from 89-92 or and be a very legitimate figure.
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Postby ghstinshll » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:15 pm

HOLY CRAP!
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Postby Steady 26542 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:25 pm

ghstinshll wrote:HOLY CRAP!


Agreed!!
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Postby KePP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:22 am

GDL17921 wrote:my guess on Chad's par is 85.

89. Steady Steddom nailed it hole for hole.

Whiner wrote:John, I was taking any average over .5 as going to the next par. Example: Hole 1 = 3.68, so it's a par 4. So...

Hole 1 = 4, hole 2 = 3, hole 3 = 4, hole 4 = 3, hole 5 = 5, hole 6 through 11 = 3, and hole 12 = 4. Making the front 12 par = 41.

Hole 13 = 5, hole 14 = 4. Hole 15 = 5, hole 16 = 4, hole 17 = 3, hole 18 = 5, hole 19 = 3, hole 20 = 4, hole 21 = 4, hole 22 = 3, hole 23 = 4, and hole 24 = 4. Making the back 12 par = 48.

So if you use the "average" method where there are no par 2's, the Pro par for the course is 89...

Jay? Mike? Anyone? :twisted:

The only one I disagree with is "new 19" long as a par 3. That's a tiny green to land on from 377' for a birdie putt, on a hole that's 80% water and 20% thin strip of land. As added incentive, Par 90 sounds cooler and is easier to remember.
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Postby IHearChains » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:41 am

The only one I disagree with is "new 19" long as a par 3. That's a tiny green to land on from 377' for a birdie putt, on a hole that's 80% water and 20% thin strip of land. As added incentive, Par 90 sounds cooler and is easier to remember.



Used to be if you were out of time and had to shorten the round, 19 was a prime candidate to be passed over. Don't get me wrong, the short was fun. But the new long is kicka$$. Now it is a must play, a "signature hole".

BTW is there any course with more "signature holes"? :shock:
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Postby Lou Siffer » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:49 am

IHearChains wrote:BTW is there any course with more "signature holes"? :shock:


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Postby KePP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:46 am

IHearChains wrote:BTW is there any course with more "signature holes"? :shock:


So not false. I count six: 5, 13, 18, 19, 21, 23.
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Postby swan » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:03 am

I'd rank Wes' 6 nominations:
13
21
5
18
23
19

The walls on the dam will give West Lake immediate recognition for any DGers in the country. Just like #17 at TPC Sawgrass (island hole) or #12 at Augusta. When you see those holes, you know exactly what courses they're from. It's super cool we have that here in the QC.
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Postby Steady 26542 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:31 am

KePP wrote:
89. Steady Steddom nailed it hole for hole.

Well, even a blind squirrel... :lol:


The only one I disagree with is "new 19" long as a par 3. That's a tiny green to land on from 377' for a birdie putt, on a hole that's 80% water and 20% thin strip of land. As added incentive, Par 90 sounds cooler and is easier to remember.


I was unaware that there was the long position at the time. I agree with all of Kepp's points regarding 19. So I guess Chad is going to have to ammend the new score card. :twisted:
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Postby KePP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:34 pm

swan wrote:The walls on the dam will give West Lake immediate recognition for any DGers in the country. Just like #17 at TPC Sawgrass (island hole) or #12 at Augusta. When you see those holes, you know exactly what courses they're from. It's super cool we have that here in the QC.

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Postby KePP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:37 pm

^ My favorite part about the course: as you're walking away from hole 4, you point out the next basket a mile across the lake and then walk the other direction.
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Postby IHearChains » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:37 pm

swan wrote:I'd rank Wes' 6 nominations:
13
21
5
18
23
21
19




You know it's a signature hole when you rank it twice in the top seven!!
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My ranking would be 23, 19, 5, 21, 18, 2.

These are just the ones I like best. But even the ones like 20 which I hate, I can't think of another one like it anywhere else I've played. 600 feet, steep uphill tunnel? Dang. I know its 475 but it sure feels like 600.
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Postby KePP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:40 pm

Only 475? Wow I never would have guessed that.
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Postby irban » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:46 pm

Par 90 also sounds like a lot of work.
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Postby swan » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:20 pm

IHearChains wrote:You know it's a signature hole when you rank it twice in the top seven!!
:D


Ooops, fixed.

Definitely a cool hole. Playing from the shorts, our three-some took 3 totally different routes: a huge hyser over the trees, a weak-ass putter down to the corner and an incredible forehand that parked about 12 feet short of the basket. (Beauty Resch!)

Having that many options on a hole shows how well it was planned and laid out. This is just one of many on this course though. You definitely have to think your shots out. Can't wait to play it again.
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