DSM Courses - 10 Years Ago

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DSM Courses - 10 Years Ago

Postby grodney » Mon May 14, 2007 9:03 am

This was posted (by me) to teh intertoobs on Jul 3 1997. I'll forget to post it here in 2 months, so this 10-year retrospective is a little early.


Des Moines Course Update

Des Moines and Burbs
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The course in Altoona has been refurbished. The layout has
been redesigned to be a 12-hole course. The old baskets have
been replaced by DISCatchers. Tee pads will go in soon. This
course is pretty wide open with some elevation changes. The
average hole length is 357'. Three holes over 400'. Two holes
under 300'. This "new" course is a great addition to the area
and is worth your time to play.

Margo Frankel is open again. The baskets had been removed in
order to let the grass, wildflowers, and trees recover a bit.
The course looks great. An elevated, terraced, putting green
has been added to hole 5 (which is closed for a couple more weeks
to let the sod take hold). Margo is a fairly short, tight course
with lots of trees and some good elevation changes.

Walnut Ridge is gone. The Margo baskets had been on loan to
Walnut. We still have permission to put the course in permanently,
but we need private funds to pay for the equipment. This was a
great, long, wide open course. We look forward to getting it
for good in the next year.

Grandview is getting close. We have raised the money for the
equipment and will be ordering (probably) within the next week.
Installation should follow closely. This will be a really nice
18 hole course through mature trees and some elevation changes.

Ankeny is being expanded from 9 to 18 holes. The current 9 has
Mach IIIs with nice tee pads. Look for more of the same on the
new 9. I believe the baskets are already on order, so look for
installation in the next couple of months.

Urbandale is still under construction (new sewer line). It should
be ready to play by August or September.


Outskirts
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The short, well-equipped Huxley course continues to draw new players.

Maxwell has a new 9 hole Mach III course. It's not bad at all for
what they had to work with. It should draw new players as well.

The 12-hole course in Madrid continues to be a cult favorite and a
regular stop for the Des Moines Disc Golf League.

Ames is getting an 18 hole Mach III course. The equipment should
be on order (now that it's July and the money is available). Look
for installation in the next couple of months.

The Newton 9-hole course continues to be a favorite of many area
golfers. This beautiful course is a regular stop for the Des
Moines Disc Golf League.


Well, that's all I can think of for now. That's 11 courses (here
or coming soon) within 1 hour drive from my house (and I live in
extreme SouthWest Des Moines; someone more northerly could reach
them all in 45 minutes or less). I guess it's easy to see, when
you couple that with the great courses in Oskaloosa, Iowa City,
Cedar Rapids, Cedar Falls/Waterloo, and the rest of the state, why
Scott Stokely recently called Iowa one of "the Disc Golf Meccas".
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Postby bman12449 » Mon May 14, 2007 10:16 am

What year did Juliana and the boob put in Colfax? Hopefully this time line will give some of our newer members some prospective of how far and how much work we did back in the day so they can enjoy the fruits of our labor. Watching and helping you guys back in the day is the main reason i choose to be the clubs course liason. I know some people must think were crazy for just donating time in exchange for personal satisfaction. I take it as my responsiblity to make sure people understand that before they played there were people that started the traditions we now enjoy.
If i remember right wasnt it Nixt that originally ran the DSM Challenge or was it Murphy? Who was the original league director?

This what i remember from 10 years ago. The first time i played league was at altoona, g-money here was the league director there were approximately 20-30 ppl that showed up. The best thing about my 1st league night is that i got a woman as a partner and all my friends thought it was hilarious little did we all know then that partner would become a 4 time worlds champion her name was Juliana. The league was a traveling league we went everywhere(newton,madrid,ames,altoona,ankeny etc.)
The plastic we used compared today was miserable our best drivers were pink cyclones and a millenium ls that usely was destoyed after you played a round out at Margo.The discs only costs $5 back then unless you wanted fly-dye discs.
Some of the golf shots i remember were Neifert acing the backstop hole at karen acres(for you rookies the basket was about 15 ft behind a batting cage like grandviews. Then theres the infamous Kloster who had back to back aces at Margo.
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Postby grodney » Mon May 14, 2007 11:46 am

According to this list:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... Z9eQmn1vEg
Colfax was in Apr 1998. Kenton is allegedly working on updating/fixing that list. I think, if updated and kept current, it is such great information.

You'd have to ask Club Historian BZ about who originally ran the tournaments and league. That was way before my time. Many people have taken a turn at it.
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Postby bman12449 » Mon May 14, 2007 3:54 pm

Wow!! how did we fine the time to even golf back then...oh wait we were all single still and no kids..lmao..good stuff..What year did you run leagues from ? i remember rowdy doing it after you for a year before i took it for 3 years.
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Postby Clue » Tue May 15, 2007 3:43 am

Remember when G would show up with 3 randomly sorted lists of players. Somebody would randomly pick one of the 3 lists and then the first two would be partners, next two, and so on. That was a pretty solid invention.
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Postby grodney » Tue May 15, 2007 6:27 am

Oh yeah, I think I remember the random list thing. Wow, had totally forgotten that. I don't remember when I ran league. Probably ran it 2 or 3 years and ended in 99 or 00.

In digging around old stuff, I found the following. I know I've posted it before, but it always makes me laugh at the effort/committment people will spend on playing tournaments vs. what they'll spend on courses. Some things never change.

Posted Sep 8 1997:
"
Saturday, 98 disc golfers showed up by 9:00 a.m. to play disc
golf for 9 hours at a C-Tier PDGA event in Newton, Iowa.

Sunday, 10 disc golfers showed up by 11:00 a.m. to dig out tee pads
for 3 hours for a brand new course in Des Moines.
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Updated Spreadsheet

Postby Tiki » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:45 am

I went ahead and updated my original spreadsheet and I have it posted under the following link.

http://www.overdrivedg.com/course_history.html

I have most of my old history pages up on the new website now.

If anybody has any info on any of the listings, especially the 13 courses that I don't have dates for and the 5 extinct courses, let me know so I can keep the list updated.
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Postby grodney » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:32 am

Very cool. Thanks.

A lot of those we should be able to put a date on. Not necessarily when they were installed, but at least a date when we know for sure they existed. Some people have some old course guides. So you could use the earliest date it's found in a course guide. And people probably have recollections of the earliest they played such-and-such a course. I think having an approx date would be better than just a ? at the end of the list.
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Postby irban » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:38 am

You can add Rand Park in Keokuk to that list. 1979 or 1980, I'm still trying to track it down.
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Postby grodney » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:07 pm

Yeah, Rand is at the bottom as an unknown. Thanks for the approximate. TJ, can you update it to "before 1980" or something like that?
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Postby bman12449 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:30 pm

becky sent me her dsm club historical list last week. i will try to forward it on to both of you guys tomm.
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Postby Tiki » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:33 pm

I have it updated. Thanks Brian.

I would also like to get as many of the course designers listed as possible.

Somebody here certainly has to know about the Fairfield and Prairie City Courses. I know they have been in for at least 12 years. The same with Legion Park.
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Postby grodney » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:49 pm

TJ I started a thread under Stuff. Peyton said he would ask at league about Marion.

I e-mailed Harvey regarding the Cherokee Mental Health install date, as well as about the Cherokee designer.

I e-mailed Neif about Marshalltown, Prairie City and anything else he can remember, but he's running out of usable brain cells.

I e-mailed Hausmann about Greene and anything else he can remember.

Will let you know if any reply.

Beeman, I got that stuff from Becky too. I haven't gone through it yet to see if there's anything that could go on this list.
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Postby Jace20 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:48 pm

That hurts, Brother G . . . .

Putting my 3-4 remaining "usable brain cells" together, my first time playing Marshalltown was circa 1995. Prairie City was prior to that. The hoops make me think that it is probably some time in the 80's. Our office manager is a lifetime resident of Prairie City. I'll see if she's got a better idea of when it went in.
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Postby grodney » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:03 pm

NEIF has spoken. (Marshalltown "<=1995", Prairie City "<1995".) Thanks.

What was that you mumbled about an old rodeo course in Dayton. Do you have any more info? Anybody else?
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