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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby IHearChains » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:36 am

The Donator wrote:Wow those vids are amazing quality


Yeah this guy does a great job. Maybe the only person whose videos can compete with lcgm8 (the guy who has covered a lot of European disc golf events).
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Swisher Streets » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Awesome videos.. lead card final round all throwing different brands
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Clue » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:19 pm

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IHearChains wrote:Another interesting thing on McBeths scorecard on USDGClive.com...he eagled hole 10 four straight times.

This hole was key, IMO to Brinster's win. 3 stroke swing on Saturday when he 2'd and Doss took a 5. Then he 2'd it again on Saturday.

Just silly. I tried multiple times in practice to just reach in bounds which the front side is about 480ft. I only got one in, barely. I remember correctly to the basket was 559ft.

I was thinking roughly 430 to make it IB and ~470 to the pin. I got to within 10ft of the pin warming up last year. 1st round it took me 3 throws to make it. Made it on the first try 2nd and 4th round. Layed up in round 3. When I made it during the tournament, I was about 40ft short still and never made the putt. The key to getting it there is getting a flex. If you don't get any right turn (which is what happened to Doss), it's never getting there. The ground is higher if you're left of the pin. If you stay right of the pin it's probably 5ft lower.
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby AO » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:19 pm

Just read this article. Don't really care either way. Little harsh at times.

http://talkdiscgolf.com/outside-the-circle-the-usdgc/
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby D Fresh » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:27 pm

AO wrote:Just read this article. Don't really care either way. Little harsh at times.

http://talkdiscgolf.com/outside-the-circle-the-usdgc/


"I could run an event on the crappiest course on the planet, make a rule that required that each player to discuss unicorns each hole and have a Monopoly tournament to get in, if I add $50,000 to the event, these guys are there."

:lol:

Good read
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby AO » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:12 pm

From the author.

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Our friends at TalkDG had a very interesting post go up yesterday morning from a disc golf pro (they are having server problems, might be tough to connect right now). This anonymous writer wanted to use TalkDG has a way to talk about the side of disc golf no one wants to talk about. In the article the writer talks about the problems with the PDGA National Tour, conflicts of interest, and overall thoughts on what is wrong with the sport.

Shortly after we read the article we contacted the author to see if the was willing to talk. While we do not know his identity, he was able to talk to us about why he wrote the article and what he has planned.

All Things Disc Golf: First off, why write about “the other side of disc golf”?

Outside the Circle: What I said needed to be said. Each and every part of this wasn’t simply hearsay unless I clarified the comment was alleged or clearly extreme hyperbole that was meant for comedic purposes; it made me laugh reading comments on Facebook today from someone who stated this article had no facts.

There is nothing out there like this and that makes our sport pretty different compared to other sports. Ever listen to the Jim Rome show? He calls people out all the time. How about Bill Simmons? Same thing. Every piece of media in sport is how about great something is or how great someone is. It’s time that we start publicly identifying issues and not accepting them.

My commentary on Disc Golf Planet TV was a perfect example of this. The “it’s the best we have” argument doesn’t fly in the real world and we shouldn’t accept it in our sport.

All Things Disc Golf: Why now? Is this something you’ve been wanting to do for a while, or a spur of the moment idea?

Outside the Circle: It’s something I’ve been thinking about all year. The idea popped in my head last year when all the players were announcing left and right they were leaving their companies for other opportunities and then watching the Prodigy team act like frat guys when Will won the Memorial. The timing just wasn’t right for it then. It would have been interpreted as Prodigy bashing. When I saw the commentary from Disc Golf Planet sitting at home, I knew this was the time to do it.

All Things Disc Golf: How many people know who is really behind the keyboard for these posts?

Outside the Circle: A half dozen maybe. Mike and Jim, who own TalkDG, obviously know who I am. I pitched them the idea of the blog and they loved it. A few close personal friends within the sport know and I had someone message my personal Facebook account pretty much telling me they knew it was me. So yeah, 6.

All Things Disc Golf: Are you afraid of having your identity revealed and have you thought about possible backlash?

Outside the Circle: Afraid isn’t the right word. I think the word is hesitant. A few companies that I am affiliated with inside the sport would not be happy if they found I wrote this. Part of the struggle I had internally about doing this was about risking losing those affiliations and upsetting companies that have supported me and what I do for years. In the end I decided this needed to be done and I was willing to sacrifice those luxuries.

Yes, I have thought about backlash. I might lose a few friends within the sport if it comes out who I am, but it’s a sacrifice. Most of my true friends are outside the sport and a few that are really close within the sport – including one really big name – was told it was me. For the record, he “died laughing” when he read it.

All Things Disc Golf: While you’ve pointed out some negatives, do you have plans to help change things around?

Outside the Circle: There is no hope in saving the things I pointed out. Nothing I pointed out hasn’t been said privately. Trust me.

All Things Disc Golf: Are there things your mind that ARE working for disc golf right now? If so, do you have any examples?

Outside the Circle: EDGE is the best thing in our sport right now. It’s a fantastic program.

All Things Disc Golf: Do you know of other touring pros who feel the same way as you do?

Outside the Circle: Oh yes. One touring pro emailed the account and basically said “great job. This needed to be said.” I know I upset Will. Will emailed me and he basically expressed his opinion about the article and asked me to remove the photo I used of team Prodigy, with Greenwell, at dinner. I did get that from his personal Facebook page. I respected his wishes and removed the photo.

All Things Disc Golf: What’s next for you?

Outside the Circle: I have a plan for another article but I don’t know if I can do it logistically. I am now planning a PDGA Tour Year in Review Column which should be on Talk DG in the next few months. I’m going to let this article marinate for a while and sit back and enjoy the discussion I am watching. And maybe chime in here and there. Or maybe I already have. Who knows.

All Things Disc Golf: Is there anything else you want to specifically cover?

Outside the Circle: This column has five goals.

Provide people with an inside view of what goes on when no galleries or cameras are around. If our sport wants to make it, our top professionals need to be professionals all the time. This column should hopefully put a few of them on notice. I may be sitting next to you at dinner at your next event or we could be battling for the win. Who knows.
Provide a few laughs. For every comment I’ve seen talking about this being childish or dumb, I’ve seen three people talking about funny it was.
Let people in our sport know that we don’t accept mediocrity.
Get lots of good discussions started.
While I can’t prove a lot of the things I say (for example, someone criticized me for not providing proof. If Dwayne Wade says “LeBron was mad at practice the other day” do we ask for video proof? No. We accept it because he is in the know. I am in the know. So I need to continue to provide factual statements about what is going on out there to gain creditability. If I said my name, no one would question me like no one would question Dwayne Wade.
Be sure to stay tuned to TalkDG.com for future articles. What are your thoughts on what was said in the article?

Don't miss anything - Follow All Things Disc Golf"
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Buzzz Killington » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:17 pm

Dude already removed his posts from talkdg. Boooooooo
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Carter45145 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Buzzz Killington wrote:Dude already removed his posts from talkdg. Boooooooo

I think someone removed it for him. That was a great blog though! He was spot on about the commentary. The part about Prodigy acting like frat boys after Will won at the Memorial had me dying of laughter.
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Clue » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Wow, I wonder who took it down. Noticed the name Trotter as being part of talkdg. I'm guessing he's in Vegas where everyone seems to be right now. No idea if Innova or Prodigy threatened him with anything. I don't remember anything in the article that I'd consider liable. Gonna be an interesting week...
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby The Donator » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:19 am

Id give it a 50/50 it was MTL
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby grodney » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:52 am

The Donator wrote:Id give it a 50/50 it was MTL


I didn't get to see it, but based on the q&a above, how about Yeti? The q&a looks too eloquent for mtl.
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby grodney » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:43 am

Okay, I found the text on dgcr. I think I'm wrong about Yeti. Sounds pretty MTL-ish, but I don't think it's him. I would guess one of his friends, though. Some of the things in it are prettymuch identical to stuff MTL posted on DGCR. It's got a little Shawn Sinclair in it, but I don't think it's him. Probably somebody from that MTL/Raleigh area. Oh, Brad Shick and Ben Botte also come to mind. Anyway, sorta funny.
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Clue » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:32 am

Surj Soleng. He's my newest facebook friend!
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby grodney » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:21 am

Well there you go.
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Re: 2013 USDGC

Postby Sidearm » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:47 am

Clue wrote:Surj Soleng. He's my newest facebook friend!


Wasn't he or his brother behind the "blue hat" (or something like that) discussion on the pdga board a number of years ago?
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