One thing I've noticed Kurt is that VC (not the Viet Cong!) runs tournaments aimed towards the new and casual players. They typically attract a full field. Pin positions are usually shorter with a tendency for the flick, not always. While the truly talented don't benefit as much, Vicious goes to great extent to get amatuer players involved in tournaments that are challenging, but not so much that you're looking for and losing discs. They pay out a long ways down the boards, more than any TD I've ever seen. This isn't so great if you're number #1, but you can see how it would be good for business. I personally love par 4's for the separation factor. I'll be cleaning up that area soon (this month?) to make it more playable in the long, you will DEFINATELY see it more this year than the last few.
I'd trust either of yous guys to make thoughtful pin location choices. Jim, I think you need to start playing disc like polo, where you throw from mountain bike
Just got an email back from the Parks and Rec Super....working out details involving a 501C3 (charitable donation) and where to dump 100 yards or so of mulch so that it would not block the road for any length of time, and not cause soil compaction going to and fro picking it up. I'll be painting red X's on dead trees when I'm out this weekend to be cut up if anyone is willing!