KePP wrote:How should pro par be determined? Through a meeting of the minds: a discussion held by disc golfers.
But disc golfers are stupid.
K.C. wrote:My bad, I've seen you both have putts for 3's.
I still stand by it, though. You should be rewarded with a birdie if you throw two good drives there. You shouldn't be rewarded, like I was, by throwing a bad first shot, and then having two more up-shots to resurrect your birdie opportunity.
K.C. wrote:Alright, here I go again...
I think pars SHOULD be determined by the advanced/pro level player, just like they are in ball golf. How many of you have actually shot under par on a ball golf course? I sure as hell haven't, and can rely on taking AT LEAST a double bogey on every hole.
If you look at the PGA tour, you'll see the VERY best ball golfers shooting in the vicinity of -10 to -20 over a four day event, right? Why should disc golf be any different. PAR is goal, birdie is rewarded when you do something very well and capitalize.
Same thing goes for courses. At PGA Championships no one shoots under par...except for Tiger. Whereas people are generally shooting signinficantly lower numbers at the other majors. West Lake is a PGA Championships type of course. Its brutal and very hard to take birdies, because mistakes can significantly cost you. But, if you had a major at Camden...you'd be getting birdie after birdie.
...again, another couple cents of mine. (You're all gettin' rich by my dumb ass.)
KePP wrote:A 360' toss that's right on target is pretty solid, too, and doesn't discriminate age & athleticism. But taking disc technology and disc golf growth into consideration, I agree with Fat Boss, 400'.
K.C. wrote:If you look at the PGA tour, you'll see the VERY best ball golfers shooting in the vicinity of -10 to -20 over a four day event, right? Why should disc golf be any different. PAR is goal, birdie is rewarded when you do something very well and capitalize.
MDR_3000 wrote:Here's a question for you...what do you consider a "good drive"?
accurate 300'? 350'? 425'?
You can't compare ball golf and disc golf in that aspect. the reason getting to par is hard in ball golf...putting. Putting is soo much easier in disc golf (even though I can't do it). It's just something you're going to have to accept.
K.C. wrote:#3: 423 ft (uphill) Very hard deuce, but very easy three. I can see someone with a big flick, or big left hand, or even really nasty roller...getting that deuce. They should be rewarded. But, I don't think being able to hit the first set of trees, then throwing a really good upshot/drive should give you a birdie....cuz you didn't play birdie golf. You SAVED your par.
K.C. wrote:Crazy nasty props for takin' a three!
#13: 870 ft. (flat, obstacles) 300-350 ft. shot, 300-350 ft. shot, up-shot...take your deserved par and be happy. Now, throw it 400, then 400...and don't putt like Mike!!! Wow, GREAT birdie.
#18: 780 ft. I gave it a par 4 only because in order to three it, you HAVE to have a 400-420 ft. dead center drive to get to the clearing. Not even advanced/pro level players can do this all that consistently, and if so...you deserve a birdie. (Adam Olsen got a well deserved birdie during that playoff.) Otherwise, throw a Roc, throw a Roc, throw a Roc, take your par.
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