Top 50 courses of 2012

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Postby Budhyzer 17696 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:25 pm

grodney wrote:Loved this DGCR review from July 2011:
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Cons: [The Course]- The biggest thing that disappointed me was the
lack of basic maintenance. The fairways were grown up to the point
where we were having to send spotters on every hole. John talked about
mowing an awful lot the days we were there, but he only started to mow
(other courses) the night we left. A lot of the paths were muddy or
marshy, and I understand sometimes it rains a lot, but this course has
been around long enough to where there should be bridges or even just
some wood planks over the usual soggy spots.

[The Complex]- Can be summed up in two words- trashy and incomplete.
The land is beautiful but is littered with junk and trash and numerous
unfinished projects. And then add on top the most important thing of
trying to maintain 5 courses while building 2 more, but nature is
easily overtaking things. John is fighting a losing battle with an
unpaid staff of 2 that can't complete the things that are already here
while simultaneously trying to build more stuff. Things appeared to be
breaking faster than they could be fixed. The campground was trashy
and smelled of raw sewage in several spots. The Honka House has a lot
of potential but the pics of the outside don't tell the whole story-
inside it is missing basics like drywall, outlet covers, lights, etc.
and seems to be used as much for storage of junk as it is for housing
guests.
"


When we stayed there for a week last September, ALL the courses were in pristine condition, all mowed with no mud anywhere. I have to agree John has a lot of projects going on and most are half finished and I can see why. They (John an 1 guy) were building a cabin next to hole 2 on Blueberry while we were there but would work on it for a couple hours then disappear....can't get much done that way IMO. The Honka House does look great from the outside but is ragged on the inside, the main door didn't have a knob or latch and we had to pull a couch in front of it at night when the wind was blowing hard. :lol: But what do you expect for $15.00 bucks a night, the Taj Mahal? It is what it is.
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Re: Top 50 courses of 2012

Postby The Donator » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:32 pm

grodney wrote:
The Donator wrote:Clue hates every single course ever created and only loves Newton, no one cares about his opinion for courses.


Well, I do.

(I'm not saying the above quote was his. Whoever said it, it was in a private correspondence to me. If the writer wants to own it here, that will be his/her choice.)

Which is funny because the one he prays to (Houck) designed them.
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Postby Like_Water » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:35 pm

If that was a "hardest courses" list, WL would be #1.
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Postby Nohr » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:39 pm

Honka house has to be 100% better than the bunk house. Which I think now is just worker housing. One thing I don't like is combining the courses that are near each other. Granberry (GRANite + BlueBERRY), Blueridge (BLUEberry + HighBRIDGE gold) are not really courses they are just alternate teepads on one of the other courses.

Gator Pete and his crew were a little crazy/sketchy.
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Postby The Donator » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:48 pm

Like_Water wrote:If that was a "hardest courses" list, WL would be #1.

No doubt.
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Re: Top 50 courses of 2012

Postby grodney » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:10 pm

The Donator wrote:Which is funny because the one he prays to (Houck) designed them.


You lost me on this one. I lost track of who or what course you're talking about?

Houck didn't have anything to do with Highbridge. You weren't saying that he did, were you?
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Postby The Donator » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:14 pm

Thats strange, when we were up there for Mid-Nationals years ago he was talking to us about all the holes he designed and the thought that went behind them. Now im confused...
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Postby SARG27044 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:16 pm

Don't worry, he lost himself as well.
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Postby cgkdisc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:35 pm

The Donator wrote:Thats strange, when we were up there for Mid-Nationals years ago he was talking to us about all the holes he designed and the thought that went behind them. Now im confused...

Houck had some suggestions during his Mid-Nats visit that were taken into consideration on reshaping the lower section of Granite (8, 9, 11, 14 area) which we decided to change related to routing near and around the marsh by current 9. About half of the new Bear and some of the additional holes added to the original 9 on Chestnut Grove are the only holes I didn't design.
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Postby GDL17921 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:14 pm

I was wondering how long it would take the designer to chime in....one hour 9 minutes..... :lol:
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Postby The Donator » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:37 pm

My bad, I knew it was Chuck's baby, but I thought Houck had most of the influence of design. So thats why Clue hates it instead of loves it lol.
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Postby cgkdisc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:46 pm

The presumed Clue review said nothing about the design either way, just dinged things Highbridge should have been responsible for making better.
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Postby tufluk » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:21 pm

GDL17921 wrote:
Nohr wrote:I don't understand how West Lake is higher rated than Camden II.


me either :lol:


I've read our reviews and can't say we've been portrayed unfairly. Those criticisms have been taken to heart.

Chris and Mike have got some kick ass tee signs in the pipeline.
There are some cool pin positions being hacked out of the jungle.
We still have a lot of terracing work on the drawing board.
Some teepads need more support around them.
Three holes still do not have benches.
We're still learning.

Give us another couple of years.....

Thanks for the praise, it keeps us pumped.
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Postby grodney » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:50 pm

cgkdisc wrote:The presumed Clue review said nothing about the design either way, just dinged things Highbridge should have been responsible for making better.


Just to be clear, only my first quote was from my friend. The big long paragraphs were on DGCR and I have no idea who said that.
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Postby cgkdisc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:12 pm

Regardless, we have no idea how the person felt about the design, just the maintenance and amenities on site.
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