Tournament lunch breaks

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How long should tournament lunch breaks be?

15 minutes after last card
3
5%
30 minutes after last card
14
25%
45 minutes after last card
22
39%
60 minutes is perfect, that's why the PDGA picked it
17
30%
I have all the time in the world!
1
2%
 
Total votes : 57

Postby Clue » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:49 am

I was the 2nd to vote 15 mins. Honestly, I had never thought about it until Eddie Mac said something to me about virtually skipping lunch altogether. Obviously every tournament is different, but on many of the pitch and putts like Newton, Grinnell, Grandview, etc... you don't need a lunch to get you through. Bring a sandwich and a bag of chips. It takes 5 mins to eat, and if you need time to digest than you're eating too much. Golfers routinely are playing 5-6 hour rounds so they snack during the round. Imagine being done and on the road by 3 or 4 in the afternoon!

Every course/tournament is going to be different. I actually wouldn't mind seeing a rolling start of sorts at certain places, like shotgunning the pro groups at 9, adv groups at 930, others at 10, all starting on the first 5-6 holes, or vice versa. That way the TD would only have to handle 5-6 cards at a time to check, sort and turn around for the 2nd round.

The bottom line is that I think an aggressive lunch schedule could be a perk that a TD could try to offer to get people through and home quicker. Maybe it wouldn't be for everyone, but with such a competitive tournament market certain TDs are going to have to get more creative to help promote their tournaments.
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Postby SARG27044 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:38 am

30 min from the last card is more than enough in most cases. Some courses are tougher to get to food than others tho. Id like to see more food on the course and much shorter lunches. Ive already been apart of at least 4 tournies this year with 2 hr lunch breaks. Makes me wanna lay down and take a nap.
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Postby grodney » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:03 am

[quote="Clue"]Bring a sandwich and a bag of chips. /quote]

Might I suggest some carrot nibs and some lite ranch instead of the chips. Or perhaps a low-fat granola bar.
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Postby shane » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:26 am

All i xan say is you guys should try to do scores and a board in 15 minutes. Not everyone plays at the same pace and some people want a break when their done. A rolling start also means a rolling finish so do you have to wait at the end or am i supposed to make half the field wait so i can get the pros out early. These 1 day B tiers are just a cash grab for half of the pros anyhow and now you want to make it where you can get out a couplw of hours earlier. As far as im concerned its up to the last group that comes in how long lunch will be.
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Postby Discgo » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:54 am

I am all for shorter, quicker lunches as long as it is known ahead of time. I really don't like it when the ladies are told they took to long and will only get x amount of minutes before the round starts. I have seen this done to my wife twice now and it makes it hard to grab food when food isn't on-site.

If you are on a card that started on the first hole and finished well ahead of the pack maybe you could use your two hour wait and grab some apples and lunch meat sandwiches at the store as a friendly gesture that you want a quick turn around from others.
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Postby Chase20460 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:20 am

Cydisc wrote:
AO wrote:
Chase20460 wrote:
AO wrote:I voted for 30 min. Guys are golfing awfully slow and 2 hour lunches are becoming an annoyingly too common.



..Says the fastest player in Iowa.



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Postby Nohr » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:30 am

If one group of players is consistently finishing way before everyone else (open/pro) why not give them the longest walks to/from tournament central?
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Postby Chase20460 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:39 am

That just adds more fuel to the whining fire. I cant wait to hear " I shot hot Chucking round and have to walk out to the BFE"


How about not bringing a lunch and leaving the course to buy a lunch like everyone else? Maybe the guy bringing PB&J will bring enough for everyone? Maybe when your done, go spot for the slow groups to help bring them in. Maybe just wander around asking the TD 3 or 4 times when your supposed to be back. Or go stand in front of the board and make changing the cards harder.

In all honesty, I could care less about lunch and am rarely in need of more than a trip to the gas station, but I am usually in the minority with the group I travel with.
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Postby Nohr » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:16 am

The problem is not the length of the lunch break it is the speed of play for the entire tournament.

Either have to slow down the pros or speed up the ams. Could we do boards like.

hole 1 : Pro
hole 2 : Adv
hole 3 : Int
hole 4 : Rec
hole 5 : Pro
hole 6 : Adv
hole 7 : Int
hole 8 : Rec
hole 9 : Pro
hole 10: Adv
hole 11: Int
hole 12: Rec
hole 13: Pro
hole 14: Adv
hole 15: Int
hole 16: Rec
hole 17: Pro
hole 18: Adv

This way slow pace is divided across all divisions!!!!!
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Postby 10up » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:38 am

hell just do like Indian Hills and have all the groups play together. Open, Rec.. what's the difference.

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Postby SARG27044 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:39 am

So instead of 2 hr lunches, everyone gets to wait on each hole for 15 min....I can just picture Fausch's retirement speech now. When I played AM, open was one of the slowest divisions, almost always finishing a few holes after us.
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Postby SARG27044 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:40 am

10up wrote:hell just do like Indian Hills and have all the groups play together. Open, Rec.. what's the difference.

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Postby Like_Water » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:51 pm

Quick update, with 43 people participating in the poll, we have:

34% with 60 minutes or longer

63% with less than 60 minute lunch break

So almost 2 out of 3 would be in favor of a shorter lunch period, after that last card gets turned in.
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Postby IHearChains » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:34 pm

I vote to make it 30 min after last card in, and if there's not food sources close enough to make it back within 30 min, the TD needs to put that info in the flyer. Assuming that info is available, then let natural selection take its course. Everyone will learn how to pack a lunch, or fail to survive in the adult world.
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Postby AO » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:32 pm

I like the idea of faster golf days, earlier starts and home or at the hotel at a decent time. I like the topic and discussion.
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