(posting under BT bc I can't get my own name approved)
check out the very top post in the stuff thread.
tufluk wrote:JDSpil wrote:desertstormvet wrote:tufluk wrote:desertstormvet wrote:Tufluk, did you find a red Star Valk in the water against the far wall on hole 3, it had a tourey stamp from a River Forest Run in Evensdale/waterloo? It had either DEhrik or Jim marked on inside rim with phone number. Had a good time at the tourney for most of the day, still learning the rules and everything with the game, wish that the guy who yelled at us about having three minutes to find a disc was a little nicer about it, I understand rules are rules and we are still learning them but we are in the rec division for that exact reason. I wont let that experience ruin disc golfing for me, but it could for someone else just getting into the sport.
When the sun was right, I could see fairly deep. I walked that bank several times in the area that your disc went. There is a trough through there about 5 ft deep. Impossible to see quite that far down. I looked around that beaver hut and in the undercut bank. Could not find your disc, or a leopard that went left pin high into even deeper water. I think that those were about the only 2 I couldn't retrieve. This morning's rain would muddy things up again. If we could get a week of dry, It might lower it enough to expose them. If I spot it later, I'll surely let you know. Sorry
And 3 minutes, on a kid, in rec, when you have to wait for 2 groups at the next tee??? Maybe you shoulda foot faulted the guy on his next fairway shot. I agree, rules are rules, but dicks are dicks too."Don't sweat the small stuff"
Thanks Tufluk, it was nice meeting you. I plan on doing WildCat dubs at the end of April, if you there I will come and say hi.
alright my name is Jason Spilman and im going to defend my actions, i approched an elderly gentleman to inform him that he and the young kid he was playing with only get 3 minutes from the time they start to look for the disc they lost in tourny play, i did this because i was informed that these two had been searching for their disc for some time already, when i started to tell the elderly man about how the rules work he cut me off mid sentence and informed me that if they stop looking they will just have to wait on the next hole for 2 other groups, well here's the deal the rules are there to help play move along and i was informing some people about these rules and how they work when i was rudely cut off and given an excuse, that im sure they hoped would let them stay there and ignore the rules. well ill be the first to admit i am a dick and can be one when need be, i was nice and informitive when i started the conversation, i chose to become a dick because i offered help so you would know the rules and you chose to not accept it, so you got what you deserved and im sorry for that. my partner and i had to talk to alot of the groups we played with about different rules and i hope they appreciated it cause it was good advise, and most of the time they actually listened, i took that gentlemans actions as him being a selfish dick to me so i changed how i was acting. so yeah rules are rules and you should follow them even if you didn't know about them 5 minutes before.
if you didn't know you had to stop at stop signs and i informed you that you had too, would you just still run them for a few days cause you didn't know earlier
The disc was IN THE WATER!!! They were not looking for a LOST disc. They were trying to retrieve an OUT OF BOUNDS shot. The three minute rule did not apply. Here are the two rules from PDGA.com:
803.09 Out-of-Bounds:A. A disc shall be considered out-of-bounds only when it comes to rest and it is clearly and completely surrounded by the out-of-bounds area. A disc thrown in water shall be deemed to be at rest once it is floating or is moving only by the action of the water or the wind on the water. See section 803.03 F. The out-of-bounds line itself is considered out-of-bounds. In order to consider the disc as out-of-bounds, there must be reasonable evidence that the disc came to rest within the out-of-bounds area. In the absence of such evidence, the disc will be considered lost and the player will proceed according to rule 803.11B.
803.11 Lost Disc:A. A disc shall be declared lost if the player cannot locate it within three minutes after arriving at the spot where it was last seen by the group or an official. Two players or an official must note when the timing of three minutes begins. All players of the group must, upon request, assist in searching for the discfor the full three minutes before the disc is declared lost. The disc is considered lost immediately upon the expiration of the three minute time limit.
I'm thinking this rule MIGHT apply.
801.03 Excessive Time:
A. A maximum of 30 seconds is allowed to each player to make a throw after:
(1) the previous player has thrown; and,
(2) the player has taken a reasonable time
to arrive at the disc and mark the lie; and,
(3) the playing area is clear and free
Maybe, just maybe, one should understand the rules, and apply them correctly when telling (or suggesting to) someone else what to do.
That said, I agree with Chase that players themselves should always strive to keep the pace of play going.
Scootvw wrote:U seem really up on your stuff, like u been playing for years !
Why where u playing Rec ?????????
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