Actually Chase, in your attempt to discredit my comments on the drug issues facing both baseball and disc golf, the way you stated your arguments you have actually helped prove my points! First baseball and A-Rod. I think everyone agrees that money is the deciding factor for not punishing A-Rod, whether it’s from the money he draws into the sport, or the influence his teams owner wields because of his money. My comments were more about whether that makes it right or not. I stand by my “not” vote and gave my reasons.
Now for my comments on the issue of smoking illegal drugs in disc golf and it’s effect on the IMAGE of our sport. I agree with you and everyone else who have commented that this issue isn’t the only one facing our sport, and I also agree that it probably isn’t the biggest issue that needs to be dealt with in order to help the game become more mainstream. I didn’t say I thought it was. My point was that just because it isn’t the biggest issue doesn’t take a way from the fact that, much like the steroid issue in baseball, it isn’t being dealt with and is having a negative impact on how people on the outside looking in view our sport. You made the point that the steroids issue hasn’t hurt the amount of money baseball brings in, and that may be true, but you must remember that baseball isn’t in the same position as disc golf. Baseball was already very well established and very lucrative long before the steroids issue came about, so it’s much easier for it to handle some adversity. People already have engrained in them years of allegiance to individual teams and players. Disc golf doesn’t have that, it's still fighting for credibility and any negative image adds to the difficulty of breaking into the more mainstream markets, be it tv, larger sponsors, ect. I don’t believe that disc golf is a “joke” to most people, I simply believe that at some point it will have to deal with the image many people have of the game.
You also make comments about going to tourneys and finding PDGA officials “doing their own experiments”. Your example goes a long way toward proving my point! I’m not going to get into the quality of the work the Officials do, thats not my concern here, but if people not associated with the sport associate that “activity” with disc golf as a result, then it hurts the image of the sport and can make it more difficult to reach a wider audience. You say "If pot in disc golf is one thing, its a detractor of motivation, and for that the sport suffers". Thanks for again helping me prove my point that if we want to take the sport to another level, this issue will eventually have to be dealt with at all levels, not only with the everyday players.
As for your responses to my point that discussions of drug use on forums such as this one help continue the stereotype of disc golfers. You say that I chose that example because it suits my point of view. Yes, it’s a great example of my point of view! It doesn’t matter where the information came from, why it was being given or whether I can find it anywhere else. My point is that it is talked about on a forum for DISC GOLF, and that anyone who reads it knows they read it on a disc golf fourm. If someone wants that info they can go find it in many places on the internet, but if someone wants to read about disc golf and finds it here, that would add to the stereotype of the sport for that person. And let me clarify something, I’m not saying anything against this forum, the people who run it or the people who use it. This forum allows people the freedom to speak their minds on many subjects, that’s why I’m on it and why its used by so many others.My only point is that when information of that kind is on a disc golf forum, it is linked to disc golf by the reader.
One last thing: does the fact that pot is illegal make it different that alcohol. Like it or not, absolutely yes. Whether a person believes it should be legal, or equates getting busted for having it to getting a parking ticket doesn't matter. What does matter is that when you are trying to sell something (disc golf) to other people image is everything, and just because a player doesn't think it's a big deal a potential sponsor could. And on the issue of why cops don't stake out more tournaments. I don't know the answer to that. They don't call me and ask me how to do their job, but if they did bust someone at a tourney or league they could because it's illegal, and that certainly wouldn't dispell the current image many people have of the sport.
Anyway, Ive run out of interest in this subject, but my points are still very valid. At some point, in order to make this sport into a large scale, viable, money making interest the image of the sport will have to be addressed. Yes there are many other things that need work too, but that wasn’t the subject of my comments. No, I don’t smoke, and I don’t have anything against those who do despite what you might think. I do believe however, that the issue will have to be dealt with at some point in order to change the image the sport has to many people. Every major sport from football, golf, Nascar, and yes even baseball when they choose to follow them, have very specific drug policies and rules that have gone a long way to creating a positive image for those sports.