Still waiting for a response. You went on a public forum and bashed a couple really great people, so why not explain why? The folks at River City Sign bend over backwards to help out disc golf in any way they can. They supply products to disc golf clubs and communities across the country, as well as donate to multiple tourneys and courses in the area. If you dont like their products thats one thing, but if you're bashing them because you have a personal beef with someone then take care of it man to man or at the very least stand behind your comments.