Discgo wrote: Beerman wrote:
Does the TD get the option to let players play down a division? I asked after the first round why a 940 rated local was allowed to play intermediate. I was told they were not aware of it at the start and would move him up but that never happened. It doesn't matter much to me because I beat him but alot of other players in the "protected" division did not. Is it up to the TD? I read the rules and it was pretty clear he should have been DQ'd.
The player in question is not current so I can't say exactly why he was allowed to play intermediate.
Not looking at a book so I am going by my aging memory here. There is a rule that states a player may choose to play in a division that he/she is not qalified for based on ratings within 2 weeks of the most current ratings update. With the early registration of most people its hard saying what his actual rating was at the time of registration.
Here are the two rules that I think apply
PDGA wrote:A. Players are not allowed to enter a division for which they are ineligible. Please see The Table of PDGA Tour Player Divisions for specifics.
B. A player is solely responsible for knowing what division(s) they are eligible to compete in. Entry into an ineligible division may result in disqualification from the event and/or suspension from PDGA events.
I asked the player about his rating and he said he had no clue what he was rated and that he had just renewed his PDGA. I also asked the TD and was told it didn't matter because the player hit a tree on his first drive. I then brought up the rule in question and was told it would be taken care of and he would be moved up to advanced (didn't happen, and not sure it could have with different pools on different courses). I didn't want to be a jerk so I didn't push it but the rules are pretty clear. It doesn't really matter because the payout was not affected but a lot of players shelled out a lot of money to come play in that "protected" division. I am not complaining, just wondering if it was handled correctly.
Section 2.2 Exceptions (Copy and Paste)
A. Players are allowed to enter a ratings based division they would otherwise be ineligible to participate only under the following circumstances
(1) If approved before the event by the PDGA Tour Manager.
(2) Players who have become ineligible for a division due to a ratings update may participate for two weeks following the update, provided they are pre-registered for the event in question, at the discretion of the TD.
(3) If competing in an applicable points series (see Section 2.2 B for specifics)
B. Players may be allowed to enter a ratings based division they would otherwise be ineligible to participate in as part of a points Series provided that
(1) The Series Director has contacted the PDGA prior and received approval from the PDGA Tour Manager.
(2) The Series allows players to stay in the division for the entire Series.
(3) The player has not competed in a higher division at any time during the Series.
(4) The player’s rating does not exceed 20 points above the rating ceiling for the division they wish to compete in.
This is the rule that I was referencing. Of course without seeing the players rating history I cant tell if this would apply. All TD's receive an email from the PDGA in the week leading up to any sanctioned event that contains a spreadsheet of current, non-current, and non PDGA players. There is NO way that the TD can say that they had no way of finding out. Now with that said it is the PLAYERS responsibility to play in the correct division.